Loot Rules and Set items

[dino]

To be clear, this is not a Guild rule, but my opinion on how looting should take place during HC raids:

All Bind On Equip (BOE) items whether they are Green/Blue/Purple Epics are fair game for people to roll on them. Personally I would rather see more people just roll Greed. But the key point is all people in the raid have a fair chance to roll on it even if you have to do a /random 100 after the roll is done for people that did not get chance to roll on it. All BOE can simply be traded to the person who wins with the highest roll.

All Bind On Pickup (BOP) item whether they are Green/Blue/Purple should be rolled NEED if you can actually use/equip the item and its a upgrade from what you are wearing. Otherwise, please just roll Greed.

Please also dont roll NEED on your set items that are not for your class because that is a Ninja. For example a Warrior should not roll on the Dreadmist set. Another example is if a set item for a Warlock drops but no Warlock is in the raid. Everyone can roll Greed on it. Whoever wins it can do whatever they want with it. Personally as your GM, I would like to see you pass it on to a high level guildie of the right class if its a BOE item.

There are some special cases. For example, a Feral Druid that can use some of the Shadowcraft pieces. In this case, lets make sure you ask the Rogues at the beginning of the raid that its ok. The Rogues should get first priority then the Druids.

For people that dont know their set items, here is the generally accepted list (Tier 1,2,3):

Warrior = Valor, Might, Wrath
Mage= Magister, Arcanist, Netherwind
Priest=Devout, Prophecy, Transcendence
Hunter=Beaststalker, Giantstalker, Dragonstalker
Rogue=Shadowcraft, Nightslayer, Bloodfang
Paladin=Lightforge, Lawbringer, Judgement
Warlock=Dreadmist, Felheart, Nemesis
Druid = Wildheart, Cenarion, Stormrage

Again, in all HC raids, lets be tolerant of guildies that make an honest mistake.

If you are in a raid with HC guildies and some pickup people, please remember to explain the loot rules to them so everyone understands up front. Remember, some people may not be on Ventrilo like us.

Feel free to send me your feedback if you agree or disagree with these method of looting.

[aurelius]

cool but u should add the epic teir1 and some tier too sets to that list
Might wrath
Lawbringer judgement
giantstalker dragonstalker
idk the rest

Oh and u forgot Wildheart - druid

[taggerung]

ya dont forget the druids =(


ps. if all the rogues have shadowcraft already, and its an improvement for a druids feral set, then can a druid roll on it?

[sigrdrifa]

Only SC items a feral druid should roll are on SC Cap, SC gloves, and SC belt. (Though the belt is comparable to another drop in Scholo (Frostbite Girdle) I think its called. In any case, I keep saying that and Drei, of course, always tells me to shut it.

[dino]

Ok I updated the list for some of the Tier 2 and 3 set items. If you guys can tell me the rest, I will add it.

Tagger, I updated my note for the special case of a Feral Druid on Shadowcraft. There are other cases too that I didnt list.
But the key message, is discuss it at the beginning of the raid to make sure the Rogues dont need it. Make sure the raid leader heard you and anyone else that is afk or joins the group later. This way we have less ninja arguments. Sound fair bud?

[HCadmin]

Sig.. like I said.. I do not mind you rolling on SC if no other rogues need it in the group.. but nevertheless.. i sigh at you

[rovina]

Warlocks need Felcloth (I think thats what it's called), not sure if you wanna include that or not.

[HCadmin]

felheart?
felcloth is a cloth lol

[flamebeard]

hunter=1 beaststalker,2 giantstalker,3 dragonstalker
warrior=1 valor,2 might,3 wrath
paladin=1 lightforge,2 lawbringer,3 judgement
rogue= 1 shadowcraft, 2 nightslayer, 3 bloodfang
mage= 1 magister's, 2 arcanist, 3 netherwind
priest= 1 devout, 2 prophecy, 3 transcendence
warlock= 1 dreadmist, 2 felheart, 3 nemesis
druid= 1 wildheart, 2 cenarion, 3 stormrage
shaman= 1 elements, 2 earthfury, 3 ten storms

all sets marked 1 are non class specific and have 2 BoE items which vary per set.
the other two sets are class specific and have no BoE items
the sets marked 2 drop in MC.
sets marked with a 3 drop primarily in BWL, however the helms will drop off of onxyia, and the legs off of Ragnaros.
for the sake of simplicity and time i have not included the class sets from Zul'Gurub, i will update with those sets and the system to get them later.

[edit] the ZG sets are very different to get and involve getting faction with a tribe of trolls and turning in coins and relics from ZG.

[taggerung]

that sounds fair for sc =)

[rovina]

Yea thats it Felheart lol

[duffmckagen]

i dont understand this someone plz explain:

All Bind On Equip (BOE) items whether they are Green/Blue/Purple Epics are fair game for people to roll on them. Personally I would rather see more people just roll Greed. But the key point is all people in the raid have a fair chance to roll on it even if you have to do a /random 100 after the roll is done for people that did not get chance to roll on it. All BOE can simply be traded to the person who wins with the highest roll.

does that mean i can roll on something thats not even for me?...of course I WOULD NEVER do that but i would not like it done to me..just asking if thats whats going on here thanks guys

[dino]

Duff, this was meant to be a general case. What do you think would happen in a PUG when a BOE Epic drops? I think everyone would roll regardless.

In a all HC guild roll situation, it is optional an up to the winner of the loot to decide. I wish they would give up the loot but they may be in need of gold so they could decide to put it in the AH.

I dont want to enforce a hard and fast rule on guildies on BOEs. BOP is easy to solve.